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    Hi, I’ve just started up making blinds professionally and have come across my first dilemma. I’ve purchased Roman blind systems and realised two problems, firstly the chain loop will finish less than 150cm from the ground and secondly it’s a bay window and I have nowhere to fix the p clip to on the central window. I’ve looked on the internet for chain breakaway devices but they won’t work because the chain will need to pass through the chain mechanism. Does anyone have any suggestions to help me please?
    Thanks in advance

  • #2
    Where did you buy the tracks - have you contacted the supplier to see if they can replace just the mechanism on the tracks so that you can use a chain with breakaway? It is important that you work with the original supplier to ensure you stay compliant.

    What fitting height and blinds drops are you working with? Depending on the gear ratio of the mechanism you might be able to fit a shorter chain.
    Louise


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    • #3
      Hallis Hudson have a product that should come to your rescue: it's a chain break away that can be used with metal and plastic chains and means you don't need a 'P' clip. Essentially you need 2 chain loops , one that hangs from the chain mechanism as normal but is fairly short drop (ideally not longer than the stack of the romans then it's hidden behind the folds. Then the second longer chain loop hangs as long as you want. It's a rectangular thing so isn't so neat but because the device breaks away to allow the lower chain will fall. Get yourself an account with Hallis Hudson as a wholesaler as they have many products that you'll find useful.
      CarolineClick image for larger version  Name:	Hallis chain breakaway device.png Views:	1 Size:	52.5 KB ID:	130993

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      • #4
        Kay, I've just noticed Hallis do a product called a 'Continous Breakaway Chain'. These come in different drops and are white plastic chains that have an integral break away which means they'll slip through any chain mechanism without acting as a 'stop'. They are supplied with an orange plastic tool to fix the two ends of a broken chain together, should the chain break. Because the breakaway is invisible the blind weight is low at 2.5kg. Click image for larger version  Name:	Hallis invisible endless chain with integral breakaway.png Views:	1 Size:	17.1 KB ID:	130995 Sorry the image is in a strange position!

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        • #5
          Surely you can only use any of the Hallis chains with their headrails- all the components of any system have to have been tested together to be compliant.

          Sorry to throw a spanner in the works!

          Best wishes
          Liz

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          • #6
            Sorry that this reply has come very late to the above posts. Thanks for all the advice. I contacted the headrail supplier and I will order a shorter chain and attach the p clip to the window frame. Thanks for all your advice.

            Can anyone recommend where I can get some clear guidelines on the child safety regulations for blinds please? My background is children’s clothing and toys and I am used to reading physical copies of safety standards and seeking advice from test houses. I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed by advice found on google!

            Thanks

            kim

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            • #7
              Hi Kim

              Any of the suppliers of roman blind hardware should have guidelines available on the general safety rules and the use of their products specifically- there are several different designs which have been developed by different manufacturers. Merrick and Day have good information which you can access without having a trade account with them, as do Hallis Hudson and Evans.

              It can seem a bit overwhelming at first- everyone got in a real flap when the regulations were first introduced- but once you have absorbed the basic rules it is quite straightforward. Any system you buy from a reputable supplier should be compliant these days and if you prefer to make up your own it is essential to buy all the components from one supplier as they will have tested them together to ensure compliance.

              Good luck with your new venture

              Best wishes
              Liz

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              • #8
                There is also a safety summary attached to our roman blind video tutorial......and a link to the M&D document which is a very useful thing to print off for reference.
                How to make Roman Blinds / Roman Shades video instructions - howto & style
                Louise


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                • #9
                  Thanks so much for all your advice.
                  kim

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